Hi Ian
Please don't take this as an accuse. I understand that keeping documentation and links updated requires a great effort. Generally you are doing a great work, and it wouldn't be reasonable to expect a flawless documentation. But I still think that I found an undocumented feature. You confirm that probably there are other cases, and I think this is a problem that should be fixed somehow. Let me explain better my point of view.
A statement documentation page is expected to include the complete syntax, so if I look at GRANT page and don't find a privilege, that privilege doesn't exist for me. Mentioning the feature in another page, and without any details, is not enough.
Also note that HELP has the same problem. I think that most users don't know that HELP contents refer to MySQL (and the KB lacks this info). In my opinion, if you cannot fill the help tables with MariaDB-specific information, you should return a warning every time a user runs HELP command.
Bye,
Federico
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Gio 11/8/16, Ian Gilfillan <ian(a)mariadb.org> ha scritto:
Oggetto: Re: [Maria-docs] undocumented features?
A: maria-docs(a)lists.launchpad.net
Data: Giovedì 11 agosto 2016, 17:10
Hi Federico
I know one of the weaknesses
has been adding new content as a new
article, and then not cross-linking it on all
related pages, so you're
right that
this is probably not the only case. It'll be quite hard
to
'check that all ... features are
documented in the proper KB page'
though! If I do spot anything will be sure to
add it, otherwise feel
free to add/report
if you spot something.
Thanks for adding the missing content in this
case.
On 11/08/2016 10:36,
Federico Razzoli wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I have a request:
could you please check that all current/future features are
documented in the proper KB page? The request includes
"sub-features", that is, syntaxes that were
implemented as part of a more generic feature. It is very
possible that there are undocumented things, in my
opinion.
>
> For
example, I just documented GRANT ... MAX_STATENENT_TIME. I
learned it exists because I've read this page:
> https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/aborting-statements/
>
> However the GRANT
page didn't mention that syntax until I added that
content. This means that, even if a user reads the
documentation, he hardly knows about this feature. Also, I
needed to experiment: in fact, from the above page, it
wasn't clear if MAX_STATEMENT_TIME was a permission or a
user resourse limit.
>
> Again, this is just a request, not
criticism. I'm writing this mail because, in my opinion,
we all would benefit from all features being documented.
>
> Thank you for your
great work, MariaDB!
>
> Regards
>
Federico
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Hi all!
I have a request: could you please check that all current/future features are documented in the proper KB page? The request includes "sub-features", that is, syntaxes that were implemented as part of a more generic feature. It is very possible that there are undocumented things, in my opinion.
For example, I just documented GRANT ... MAX_STATENENT_TIME. I learned it exists because I've read this page:
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/aborting-statements/
However the GRANT page didn't mention that syntax until I added that content. This means that, even if a user reads the documentation, he hardly knows about this feature. Also, I needed to experiment: in fact, from the above page, it wasn't clear if MAX_STATEMENT_TIME was a permission or a user resourse limit.
Again, this is just a request, not criticism. I'm writing this mail because, in my opinion, we all would benefit from all features being documented.
Thank you for your great work, MariaDB!
Regards
Federico
