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Re: [Maria-discuss] Backporting bug fixes to 1.0?
by Federico Razzoli 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Thank you for expressing your honest opinions about the MySQL/MariaDB ecosystem. Best wishes for your next job and your open source projects. Federico -------------------------------------------- Mer 24/8/16, Justin Swanhart <greenlion(a)gmail.com> ha scritto: Oggetto: Re: [Maria-discuss] Backporting bug fixes to 1.0? A: "Maria Discuss" <maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net> Data: Mercoledì 24 agosto 2016, 14:21 I have been fired for speaking out about the GPL and MariaDB actions that have caused great harm to our ecosystem. It has been pointed out that I have a non-compete agreement. None of my tools compete with MariaDB and I have no non-public knowledge of MariaDB technology. GPLScale remains free software under the GNU GPL license and it is my right to fork a github repo. I am not paid to work on GPLScale and I don't intend to get paid to maintain it by anyone. All my projects are labors of love. Who wants to hire me? I'm dedicated, honest, open, and I have integrity. I'm willing to risk everything for what I believe in. Email me at:greenlion at gmail dot com ---- I have been a proponent of GPL for a long time, and I don't need publicity.http://swanhart.livejournal.com/128586r.html https://libraries.io/github/greenlion https://blog.jcole.us/2008/07/23/on-mysql-forks-and-mysqls-non-open-source-… Swanhart on July 23, 2008 at 12:09Brian, The “thing is” that we shouldn’t have to write it. MySQL may be ‘open source’, but it isn’t ‘open software’. With all the talk recently of proprietary extensions, the documentation licensing issues, the whole ‘enterprise’ vs ‘community’ debacle, well, MySQL has totally shown that they are not ‘Open Software’ company. WHEN I WAS SEVENTEEN I BROKE THE LAW AND DROVE FROM PITTSBURGH PA TO BOSTON MA FOR THE FIRST FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION CONFERENCE. I sat down and had breakfast with STALLMAN, TORVALDS, AND RAYMOND! My whole life is open source. I've made my living off it and I intend to make sure others have the same opportunities that I have. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Justin Swanhart <greenlion(a)gmail.com> wrote: I have created a GitHub fork of MaxScale which does not include the 2.0 branch. The repository is called GPLScale. There is a big potential problem with this. Take for example the file server/core/utils.c, which now has a new license: https://github.com/mariadb-corporation/MaxScale/blob/2.0/server/core/utils.c This file WAS covered under GPL: https://github.com/mariadb-corporation/MaxScale/blob/cb3213af6382c380df9fc4… When there is a bugfix in 2.0 for server code that existed in 1.0, can that code be backported directly into GPLscale? a) util.c in 2.0 is clearly derivative of 1.0, and is therefore a derivative work of 1.0 and therefore still covered by GPL and b) there is a "violation" of GPL, because 1.0 GPL code is being linked against code covered by an incompatible license (other code in MaxScale). Almost all of the files in MaxScale 2.0 derive from 1.0 so this problem is not just in one file of course. The FSF says that the owner of the software can't legally violate the GPL they can morally violate the GPL. Will MariaDB commit to backporting all bugs in 1.0 code into the 1.0 branch? -----Segue allegato----- _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: Prepared statements support in MariaDB
by AskMonty KB 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "Does MariaDB support..." by Sibin.. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/prepared-statements-support-in-mariadb/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- Can you please tell me if MariaDB supports Prepared statements (related instrumentation were added in MySQL-5.7.4)? If not, then please tell me in which MariaDB version support for prepared statements will be added ? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/prepared-statements-support-in-mariadb/

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: How to use Maxscale for maximum reliability?
by AskMonty KB 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MaxScale Routers" by patrik_63236. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-to-use-maxscale-for-maximum-reliability/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- I'm trying to use Maxscale in front of a Galera cluster. Performance is not an issue. The reason I'm using it is so that I can take down a node for maintenance and upgrades without downtime. But I'm not sure how to achieve this. When I run m my tests I get failures. I suspect that the problem occurs when Maxscale writes to one node and then immidiately tries to read that data from another node. -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-to-use-maxscale-for-maximum-reliability/

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: Connectin Excel with MariaDB
by AskMonty KB 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB Connector/ODBC" by alejandro_reyna_g. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/connectin-excel-with-mariadb/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- Hello ! A Question from a begginer. I have been trying to connect Excel 2007 with MariaDB. 1) I downloaded the latest ODBC connector. 2) I created in Windows a new ODBC connection fron the control panel 3) From excel I created selected the connection and I can only see the TEST and PERFORMANCE_SCHEMA Databases. I don´t see any of my DataTables. What could be happening? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/connectin-excel-with-mariadb/

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: MONyog ssh authentication using private key
by AskMonty KB 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB FAQ" by palash.harchandani93_43595. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/monyog-ssh-authentication-using-private-key/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- When we configure the ssh connection and we choose the key based authentication method we have to copy paste the private ssh keys...IS there any other way to get the private key or authenticate by giving the public key...something like that?? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/monyog-ssh-authentication-using-private-key/

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: MONyog SNMP Traps
by AskMonty KB 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB FAQ" by palash.harchandani93_43595. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/monyog-snmp-traps/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- When we are sending the traps seems like the tags are not present in the raw data. Also the server name is the name which we give rather than the actual host name.. Is it possible to add tags and get the original host via SNMP traps?? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/monyog-snmp-traps/

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[Maria-discuss] Query the list of dynamic variables
by Игорь Пашев 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

If there are way to query the list of dynamic variables, e. i. variables that can be changed globally without restarting the server?

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[Maria-discuss] maxscale 2.0 bug fixes
by Federico Razzoli 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Hi all I see that MaxScale 2.0 will not be open source until 2009.01.01. I have some questions. 1) I expect next releases to fix bugs, including critical and security bugs. When will these versions be open source? 2) At some point MaxScale 2.0 will be open and 3.0 will be released but not open. When a software exists in both an open and a closed source, I expect the open form to be low-quality. This applies to all examples I can think of. I will feel a bit better if you could explain why you will maintain 2.0 for a reasonable number of years. 3) From my understanding part of MariaDB code belongs to Oracle, thus cannot be closed-sourced by you. But what about connectors and some storage engines? Do you plan to change their license? Thanks in advance for your answers. Federico

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Re: [Maria-discuss] maxscale 2.0 bug fixes
by Federico Razzoli 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

Hi Kaj Yes you did answer all my questions. Thanks for that. I disagree about point 2, precisely the "reasonable number of years" a server software should be supported. Even if a software is very old (say MySQL 5.0 for example) it is very possible that new security holes are found. That's why customers using servers/versions which reached their EOL should definitely upgrade to a more recent version. (yes there are exceptions, but I'm talking about the general case) Let's get back to your example: on 2019.01.02 MaxScale 3.0 could be out and GA. Should we expect the typical user to be ready to upgrade? Based on my experience, definitely not. They need time to decode, plan, test, etc. The possibility that 2.0 will be discontinued (or almost discontinued) immediately after the Change Date is scary, and your answer doesn't provide any guarantees that this won't happen. So, as much as I appreciate your honest answers, and as much as I like the software itself, I am seriously concerned. And also, let me add that I don't like to use a software that is not (yet) open source. I totally understand the problems explained by Monty in his blog post, but I don't like the solution you've found. However I am glad to hear that you don't have plans to do the same changes to connectors and storage engines. If I may give an advice, maybe the Foundation should officially "protect" that software to dissipate any doubt. Regards, Federico -------------------------------------------- Mer 17/8/16, Kaj Arnö <kaj(a)mariadb.com> ha scritto: Oggetto: Re: maxscale 2.0 bug fixes A: "Federico Razzoli" <federico_raz(a)yahoo.it>, maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net Data: Mercoledì 17 agosto 2016, 20:23 Hi Federico, Thank you for your questions. Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Federico Razzoli <federico_raz(a)yahoo.it>:Hi all I see that MaxScale 2.0 will not be open source until 2009.01.01. I have some questions. 1) I expect next releases to fix bugs, including critical and security bugs. When will these versions be open source? 1. Fixes to 2.0 will be in 2.0.1, 2.0.2, 2.0.3 and so on. All of these will become "GPLv2 or later" on 2019-01-01. 2) At some point MaxScale 2.0 will be open and 3.0 will be released but not open. When a software exists in both an open and a closed source, I expect the open form to be low-quality. This applies to all examples I can think of. I will feel a bit better if you could explain why you will maintain 2.0 for a reasonable number of years. 2. At some point (say: 2019-01-02), MaxScale 2.0 will be "GPLv2 or later", but another release (say: MaxScale 2.1 or MaxScale 3.0) will not yet be "GPLv2 or later" but still BSL, correct. MaxScale 2.0 will by then have gone through a list of bug fix releases. I don't expect there to be many bugs left in the MaxScale 2.0 code on 2019-01-02. In a way, what I am saying is that the period until the Change Date is already "a reasonable number of years". What the *exact* situation is on 2019-01-02 depends on how many new releases we will have by then. At any rate, we want to grow the user base of MaxScale. We are interested in large-scale adoption. There won't be much adoption if we don't fix bugs for a "reasonable number of years". All in all, on 2019-01-02, MaxScale 2.0 will be bug-wise of high quality and the only reason to use 2.1 (or 3.0 or whatever) instead of 2.0 will be the added functionality on top of what 2.0 has. So MariaDB Corporation has a high motivation to add desirable functionality. 3) From my understanding part of MariaDB code belongs to Oracle, thus cannot be closed-sourced by you. But what about connectors and some storage engines? Do you plan to change their license? 3. Correct, MariaDB Server cannot be closed sourced by us. We have no current plans for changing licenses of any connectors or storage engines. Thanks in advance for your answers.Federico Did this answer your questions? Kaj-- Kaj Arnö, Chief of Staff MariaDB Corporation

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: Range of values for INT
by AskMonty KB 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "Data Types" by cay_mia_g. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/range-of-values-for-int/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- I believe the note for INT above: Integer from -2147483648 to 2147483648 signed Should be corrected to: Integer from -2147483648 to 2147483647 signed -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/range-of-values-for-int/

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