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[Maria-discuss] New Question: MariaDB relocatable rpm packages
by AskMonty KB 10 Jun '16

10 Jun '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB FAQ" by palash.harchandani93_43595. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-relocatable-rpm-packages/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- I want to know if the mariadb 10.1.13 packages are relocatable or not as i want to install the rpm packages in some other directory rather than the default installation directory. -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-relocatable-rpm-packages/

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[Maria-discuss] Event types in performance schema
by Rhys.Campbell＠swisscom.com 10 Jun '16

10 Jun '16

Hi All, I'm doing some stuff with the performance_Schema and have a quick question about event types. These appear in the events_statements_summary_by_account_by_event_name table (and others) and look like... statement/com/Ping statement/sql/select statement/sql/insert statement/sql/commit statement/sql/update Am I correct in thinking the COMMIT type would be a total of all the events of a transaction. So if we did something like... START TRANSACTION SELECT EVENT UPDATE EVENT INSERT EVENT DELETE EVENT COMMIT The performance_schema would log this as EVENTS for SELECT, UPDATE, INSERT and DELETE individual times. While the COMMIT would be a sum of these times? Cheers, Rhys

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: MyISAM plus INNODB enable query cache?
by AskMonty KB 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB Community" by chrismatthews. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/myisam-plus-innodb-enable-query-cache/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- We have 2GB of MyISAM plus 2GB INNODB data. Running MariaDB 10.* Should we enable or disable query_cache ? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/myisam-plus-innodb-enable-query-cache/

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[Maria-discuss] AUTO_COMMIT=0 for a session - READ inconsistencyi - ssue or no issue
by Karthick Subramanian 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Observation: If we set the AUTOCOMMIT=0 in a session, then in that session, I noticed a data inconsistency. Whatever data committed in other sessions, when we select in this session showing until we start any new transaction in this session. The moement we sstart any new transaction in this session, then its not showing any latest data for a table (data inserted by other sessions) in this session, unless we explicitly issue the commit. Usually AUTOCOMMIT=0 means any specific transactions in that session will be visible to other sessions only when we explicitly issue a COMMIT, but we can read a consistent data from that session. It doesn't seem to be working. Is this my misunderstanding on how a Transaction management works or a bug? Session 1: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; Empty set (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a1', 'a11'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | +------+------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> Session 2: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | +------+------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a2', 'a22'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.01 sec) MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | +------+------+ 2 rows in set (0.00 sec) back to Session 1: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | +------+------+ 2 rows in set (0.00 sec) Back to session 2: MariaDB [employees]> set auto_commit=0; ERROR 1193 (HY000): Unknown system variable 'auto_commit' MariaDB [employees]> set autocommit=0; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> Move to Session 3: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | +------+------+ 2 rows in set (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> Move to session 1: MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a3', 'a33'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | +------+------+ 3 rows in set (0.01 sec) Move to session 2: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | +------+------+ 3 rows in set (0.00 sec) Move to Session 3: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | +------+------+ 3 rows in set (0.00 sec) Across all 3 sessions, the data is consistent. Move to session 1: MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a4', 'a44'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | | a4 | a4 | +------+------+ 4 rows in set (0.00 sec) Move to Session 2: MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a5', 'a55'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.01 sec) MariaDB [employees]> INSERT INTO tab -> (c1, c2) -> VALUES -> ('a6', 'a66'); Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | | a5 | a5 | | a6 | a6 | +------+------+ 5 rows in set (0.00 sec) a4 record is missing here in session 2 - inconsistency started. move to session 3: MariaDB [employees]> select * from tab; +------+------+ | c1 | c2 | +------+------+ | a1 | a1 | | a2 | a2 | | a3 | a3 | | a4 | a4 | +------+------+ 4 rows in set (0.00 sec) In Session 3 - a5 and a6 records are mising because in session 2 - autocommit=0, so its expected that a5 and a6 are missing in session1,3. BUT, why in session 2, the a4 record is missing?

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: MariaDB installation in a different directory using RPMs
by AskMonty KB 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "MariaDB FAQ" by palash.harchandani93_43595. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-installation-in-a-different-directory-usin… as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- I am trying to install MariaDB using RPMs packages in a user created directory but i am not able to do it. Is it possible to do it?? i have tried --prefix option but couldnt start the mysql service and also yum --installroot option but couldnt start the service. Please suggest a way to do it if its possible -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-installation-in-a-different-directory-usin…

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: how to install ColumnStore?
by AskMonty KB 08 Jun '16

08 Jun '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "ColumnStore" by robertsilen. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-to-install-columnstore/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- how do I install ColumnStore? -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-to-install-columnstore/

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[Maria-discuss] New Question: how add string on value of result on mysql mariadb
by AskMonty KB 07 Jun '16

07 Jun '16

Hello, A new question has been asked in "String functions" by design_buanalabel_g. Please answer it at http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-add-string-on-value-of-result-on-mysql-mariadb/ as the person asking the question may not be subscribed to the mailing list. -------------------------------- dear Mr. / Mrs. how add string on value of result on mysql mariadb ? Thank you Agustino Design buana -------------------------------- To view or answer this question please visit: http://mariadb.com/kb/en/how-add-string-on-value-of-result-on-mysql-mariadb/

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Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash
by Mark 07 Jun '16

07 Jun '16

No, honestly, that wasn't it. :) As per the Jira link Jan Lindström provided, the data becomes corrupted as a result of certain queries! (I didn't know why, but it was pretty repeatable: wipe the database, re-populate it again, run the scheduled script, and bam, the 'xovers' table immediately crashes). Without the fix provided in 10.1.14, I would have never been able to solve this (except maybe to revert to myisam). A big thanks again to Jan Lindström, for identifying the issue, and to everyone else willing to think along with me! :) -----Original Message----- From: Jan Steinman [mailto:Jan@EcoReality.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 01:05 To: Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl> Cc: chris(a)mariadb.com; maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash > So, with almost certainty, the scheduled task corrupts the database. No, it looks to me like the scheduled task is trying to access corrupted data — important distinction! To rule this out, dump the database, move your datadir to a safe place, run mysql_install_db, then load the dump: “mysql <dump.sql”. Then run your scheduled task again. My bet is it will work fine, then. :::: :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op :::: > On 2016-06-06, at 08:59, Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: > > The log starts just with: > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready > for connections. > Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org binary > distribution > > No errors at startup (database prefilled with manually run retrieval > script). Then, at 16:47, when the scheduled retrieve task starts for > the first time, the log adds: > > InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, > InnoDB: space name news/commentsxover, > InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. > InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. > InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that > InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the > InnoDB: MySQL server. > 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in > file fil0fil.cc line 5866 > > So, with almost certainty, the scheduled task corrupts the database. > Especially since I was now (unfortunately) able to replicate the same > conditions for the crash. But there's nothing in that php script that > could normally do that. (Especially since it runs manually just fine, > without corrupting anything). The scheduled task runs as me, but is > 'hidden', though (i.e., doesn't open a console). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Calender [mailto:chris.calender@mariadb.com] > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 17:44 > To: Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl>; maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash > > Hello, > > No need for the config file, you have corruption in your tablespace, > hence the crash. > > It starts up here, at 16:39:16: > >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 1e24 InnoDB: Warning: Using... >> ... >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready >> for connections. >> Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org >> binary > distribution > > At the exact same time, we see the corruption (thus this corruption > was both detected and mentioned at startup): > >> InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, > > InnoDB: space name spotweb/commentsxover, > InnoDB: which is outside > the tablespace bounds. >> InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. >> InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that > > InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the > InnoDB: > MySQL server. > > Then, about 8 minutes later, you attempt to select from the same table > that is corrupted ("spotweb.commentsxover"), hence the immediate > assertion > failure: > >> 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in >> > > file fil0fil.cc line 5866 > > And the stack trace confirms the query: > >> Query (0x4b01740): SELECT messageid FROM commentsxover ORDER BY id >> DESC LIMIT 5000 > > Since that is the only table referenced as being corrupted, you could > probably get by with dropping it and then restoring it from a backup. > If you do not have a current backup, then you will need to enable > innodb_force_recovery (read below link for details), then dump from > the table, dumping "around" the corruption using mysqldump with ORDER > BY pk and LIMIT, and then once you have as much data as possible, then > DROP the table, and import your dump. > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html > > Hope this helps! > > Best wishes, > Chris > > > On 6/6/2016 11:17 AM, Mark wrote: >> And yet the same 9*&^%^&*()_ crash (see below). I'm beginning to get >> real tired of this. >> >> The corruption starts almost immediately upon running a scheduled >> task that's retrieving posts (at 16:47 hours). It's the same task I >> ran manually first. There's absolutely no reason why a simple >> scheduled post retrieval script should immediately corrupt MariaDB >> beyond all recognition. The scheduled task consists of nothing more >> than a script (that runs as me), like: >> >> c:\xampp\php\php.exe c:\xampp\htdocs\news\retrieve.php -force >> >> It runs every 30 mins. >> >> And no, no write-delays, or computer crashes that preceded this. >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: Normal >> shutdown >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] Event Scheduler: Purging the queue. 0 >> events >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3504 [Note] InnoDB: FTS optimize thread exiting. >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] InnoDB: Starting shutdown... >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:29 3552 [Note] InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log >> sequence number 6767908697 >> >> 2016-06-06 15:52:29 3552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: >> Shutdown complete >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 1e24 InnoDB: Warning: Using >> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size is DEPRECATED. This option may be >> removed in future releases, together with the option >> innodb_use_sys_malloc and with the InnoDB's internal memory allocator. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Using mutexes to ref count >> buffer pool pages >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is >> disabled >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use >> Windows interlocked functions >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Memory barrier is not used >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib >> 1.2.3 >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Using generic crc32 >> instructions >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, >> size = 16.0M >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Completed initialization of >> buffer pool >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Highest supported file format >> is Barracuda. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: 128 rollback segment(s) are > active. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Waiting for purge to start >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Percona XtraDB >> (http://www.percona.com) 5.6.28-76.1 started; log sequence number >> 6767908697 >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7100 [Note] InnoDB: Dumping buffer pool(s) not >> yet started >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Plugin 'FEEDBACK' is disabled. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready >> for connections. >> >> Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org >> binary distribution >> >> InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, >> >> InnoDB: space name spotweb/commentsxover, >> >> InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. >> >> InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. >> >> InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that >> >> InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the >> >> InnoDB: MySQL server. >> >> 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in >> file fil0fil.cc line 5866 >> >> InnoDB: We intentionally generate a memory trap. >> >> InnoDB: Submit a detailed bug report to http://bugs.mysql.com. >> >> InnoDB: If you get repeated assertion failures or crashes, even >> >> InnoDB: immediately after the mysqld startup, there may be >> >> InnoDB: corruption in the InnoDB tablespace. Please refer to >> >> InnoDB: >> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html >> >> InnoDB: about forcing recovery. >> >> 160606 16:47:38 [ERROR] mysqld got exception 0x80000003 ; >> >> This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that this >> binary >> >> or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, improperly >> built, >> >> or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by malfunctioning > hardware. >> >> To report this bug, see https://mariadb.com/kb/en/reporting-bugs >> >> We will try our best to scrape up some info that will hopefully help >> >> diagnose the problem, but since we have already crashed, >> >> something is definitely wrong and this may fail. >> >> Server version: 10.1.13-MariaDB >> >> key_buffer_size=16777216 >> >> read_buffer_size=262144 >> >> max_used_connections=1 >> >> max_threads=1001 >> >> thread_count=1 >> >> It is possible that mysqld could use up to >> >> key_buffer_size + (read_buffer_size + sort_buffer_size)*max_threads = >> 787100 K bytes of memory >> >> Hope that's ok; if not, decrease some variables in the equation. >> >> Thread pointer: 0x0x4af7270 >> >> Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find >> out >> >> where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went >> >> terribly wrong... >> >> mysqld.exe!my_parameter_handler() >> >> mysqld.exe!my_mb_ctype_mb() >> >> mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?functype@Item_func_dyncol_create@@UBE?AW4Functype@Item_fu >> n >> c@@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!??0Global_read_lock@@QAE@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!??0Global_read_lock@@QAE@XZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?get_trg_event_map@Update_rows_log_event@@UAEEXZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?get_trg_event_map@Update_rows_log_event@@UAEEXZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?ha_open@handler@@QAEHPAUTABLE@@PBDHI@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?open_table_from_share@@YA?AW4open_frm_error@@PAVTHD@@PAUT >> A >> BLE_SHARE@@PBDIIIPAUTABLE@@_N@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?open_table@@YA_NPAVTHD@@PAUTABLE_LIST@@PAVOpen_table_cont >> e >> xt@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?recover_from_failed_open@Open_table_context@@QAE_NXZ() >> >> mysqld.exe!?open_tables@@YA_NPAVTHD@@ABUDDL_options_st@@PAPAUTABLE_LI >> S >> T@@PAIIPAVPrelocking_strategy@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?open_and_lock_tables@@YA_NPAVTHD@@ABUDDL_options_st@@PAUT >> A >> BLE_LIST@@_NIPAVPrelocking_strategy@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!??0Table_scope_and_contents_source_st@@QAE@ABU0@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?mysql_execute_command@@YAHPAVTHD@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?mysql_parse@@YAXPAVTHD@@PADIPAVParser_state@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?dispatch_command@@YA_NW4enum_server_command@@PAVTHD@@PADI >> @ >> Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?do_command@@YA_NPAVTHD@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?threadpool_process_request@@YAHPAVTHD@@@Z() >> >> mysqld.exe!?tp_end@@YAXXZ() >> >> KERNEL32.DLL!SetUserGeoID() >> >> ntdll.dll!TpSimpleTryPost() >> >> ntdll.dll!EtwNotificationRegister() >> >> KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk() >> >> ntdll.dll!RtlUnicodeStringToInteger() >> >> ntdll.dll!RtlUnicodeStringToInteger() >> >> Trying to get some variables. >> >> Some pointers may be invalid and cause the dump to abort. >> >> Query (0x4b01740): SELECT messageid FROM commentsxover ORDER BY id >> DESC LIMIT 5000 >> >> Connection ID (thread ID): 2 >> >> Status: NOT_KILLED >> >> Optimizer switch: >> index_merge=on,index_merge_union=on,index_merge_sort_union=on,index_m >> e >> rge_intersection=on,index_merge_sort_intersection=off,engine_conditio >> n >> _pushdown=off,index_condition_pushdown=on,derived_merge=on,derived_wi >> t >> h_keys=on,firstmatch=on,loosescan=on,materialization=on,in_to_exists= >> o >> n,semijoin=on,partial_match_rowid_merge=on,partial_match_table_scan=o >> n >> ,subquery_cache=on,mrr=off,mrr_cost_based=off,mrr_sort_keys=off,outer >> _ >> join_with_cache=on,semijoin_with_cache=on,join_cache_incremental=on,j >> o >> in_cache_hashed=on,join_cache_bka=on,optimize_join_buffer_size=off,ta >> b le_elimination=on,extended_keys=on,exists_to_in=on >> >> The manual page at http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/crashing.html >> contains >> >> information that should help you find out what is causing the crash. >> >> *From:*Justin Swanhart [mailto:greenlion@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2016 16:16 >> *To:* Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl> >> *Cc:* maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash >> >> Hi, >> >> Do you have write-behind caching turned on? Do you have RAID card >> without BBU? Did your computer crash? If the OS or hardware (like >> IDE HDD cache) lies about actually writing to disk, InnoDB can become >> corrupted, and this is not the fault of innodb. Be aware that if >> this is a VM, many VM lie about disk writes, a "feature" you must turn off. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl >> <mailto:asarian@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >> >> Sorry I wiped the database; but it got to the point where MariaDB >> immediately crashed upon startup (so the usual repair attempts were >> futile, as they all kinda assume a MariaDB server that's up and >> running). I have years of experience (FreeBSD) with myisam tables; >> but a crash like this is a first for me, really, where the entire >> database was foobarred to the point MariaDB wouldn't even start any >> more. >> >> Thanks for creating the bug report. I shall investigate myself too, >> in trying to find a way to integrate the MariaDB shutdown gracefully >> (in UNIX this is all much simpler and straightforward). >> >> -Mark >> >> *From:*Vladislav Vaintroub [mailto:vvaintroub@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2016 11:39 >> *To:* Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl <mailto:asarian@xs4all.nl>>; >> maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash >> >> Yes, it is possible that Windows does not give enough time to >> MariaDB to shut down gracefully. I just created a task for this one >> here https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10183. >> >> Still, Innodb should handle this situation gracefully, and recover >> on startup, so what you see is a bug. It is a pity that you wiped >> down the database, it would be useful for a bug report. >> >> On 06.06.2016 11:08, Mark wrote: >> >> Got a huge crash today, right after initializing my first >> MariaDB database (see below). Got several more errors about >> tables having crashed later on, and MariaDB wouldn't even start >> up any more (I wound up wiping the entire database). >> >> So, my question is, what could cause MariaDB to fail so >> horrendeously?! I though InnoDB was supposed to be *better* than >> myisam!? Is is because maybe Windows 10 doesn't give MariaDB >> enough time to shut down gracefully? Could it be because a >> Windows scheduler job (potentially) aborts the fetcher script >> when it's still running? (Again, I though InnoDB was supposed to >> be transaction-safe). >> >> In its current state, MariaDB is completely unusable for me. >> >> And no, I don't have hard disk errors. :) >> >> Seriously, though, I could use some major insight! >> >> Thanks. >> >> 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. >> >> 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: >> ready for connections. >> >> Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org >> <http://mariadb.org> binary distribution >> >> InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 251010 in space >> 69, >> >> InnoDB: space name news/commentsxover, >> >> InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. >> >> InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. >> >> InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check >> that >> >> InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in >> the >> >> InnoDB: MySQL server. >> >> 2016-06-06 08:47:46 e08 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread >> 3592 in file fil0fil.cc <http://fil0fil.cc> line 5866 >> >> InnoDB: We intentionally generate a memory trap. >> >> InnoDB: Submit a detailed bug report to http://bugs.mysql.com. >> >> InnoDB: If you get repeated assertion failures or crashes, >> even >> >> InnoDB: immediately after the mysqld startup, there may be >> >> InnoDB: corruption in the InnoDB tablespace. Please refer to >> >> InnoDB: >> >> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html >> >> InnoDB: about forcing recovery. >> >> 160606 8:47:46 [ERROR] mysqld got exception 0x80000003 ; >> >> This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that >> this binary >> >> or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, >> improperly built, >> >> or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by >> malfunctioning hardware. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list:https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> >> Post to :maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> >> >> Unsubscribe :https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> >> More help :https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > -- > Chris Calender, M.S., Principal Support Engineer MariaDB Corporation > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

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[Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash
by Mark 07 Jun '16

07 Jun '16

Got a huge crash today, right after initializing my first MariaDB database (see below). Got several more errors about tables having crashed later on, and MariaDB wouldn't even start up any more (I wound up wiping the entire database). So, my question is, what could cause MariaDB to fail so horrendeously?! I though InnoDB was supposed to be *better* than myisam!? Is is because maybe Windows 10 doesn't give MariaDB enough time to shut down gracefully? Could it be because a Windows scheduler job (potentially) aborts the fetcher script when it's still running? (Again, I though InnoDB was supposed to be transaction-safe). In its current state, MariaDB is completely unusable for me. And no, I don't have hard disk errors. :) Seriously, though, I could use some major insight! Thanks. 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready for connections. Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org binary distribution InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 251010 in space 69, InnoDB: space name news/commentsxover, InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the InnoDB: MySQL server. 2016-06-06 08:47:46 e08 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 3592 in file fil0fil.cc line 5866 InnoDB: We intentionally generate a memory trap. InnoDB: Submit a detailed bug report to http://bugs.mysql.com. InnoDB: If you get repeated assertion failures or crashes, even InnoDB: immediately after the mysqld startup, there may be InnoDB: corruption in the InnoDB tablespace. Please refer to InnoDB: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html InnoDB: about forcing recovery. 160606 8:47:46 [ERROR] mysqld got exception 0x80000003 ; This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that this binary or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, improperly built, or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by malfunctioning hardware.

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Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash
by Mark 06 Jun '16

06 Jun '16

The log starts just with: 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready for connections. Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org binary distribution No errors at startup (database prefilled with manually run retrieval script). Then, at 16:47, when the scheduled retrieve task starts for the first time, the log adds: InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, InnoDB: space name news/commentsxover, InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the InnoDB: MySQL server. 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in file fil0fil.cc line 5866 So, with almost certainty, the scheduled task corrupts the database. Especially since I was now (unfortunately) able to replicate the same conditions for the crash. But there's nothing in that php script that could normally do that. (Especially since it runs manually just fine, without corrupting anything). The scheduled task runs as me, but is 'hidden', though (i.e., doesn't open a console). -----Original Message----- From: Chris Calender [mailto:chris.calender@mariadb.com] Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 17:44 To: Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl>; maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash Hello, No need for the config file, you have corruption in your tablespace, hence the crash. It starts up here, at 16:39:16: > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 1e24 InnoDB: Warning: Using... > ... > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready for > connections. > Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org binary distribution At the exact same time, we see the corruption (thus this corruption was both detected and mentioned at startup): > InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, > InnoDB: space name spotweb/commentsxover, > InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. > InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. > InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that > InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the > InnoDB: MySQL server. Then, about 8 minutes later, you attempt to select from the same table that is corrupted ("spotweb.commentsxover"), hence the immediate assertion failure: > 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in > file fil0fil.cc line 5866 And the stack trace confirms the query: > Query (0x4b01740): SELECT messageid FROM commentsxover ORDER BY id DESC > LIMIT 5000 Since that is the only table referenced as being corrupted, you could probably get by with dropping it and then restoring it from a backup. If you do not have a current backup, then you will need to enable innodb_force_recovery (read below link for details), then dump from the table, dumping "around" the corruption using mysqldump with ORDER BY pk and LIMIT, and then once you have as much data as possible, then DROP the table, and import your dump. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html Hope this helps! Best wishes, Chris On 6/6/2016 11:17 AM, Mark wrote: > And yet the same 9*&^%^&*()_ crash (see below). I'm beginning to get > real tired of this. > > The corruption starts almost immediately upon running a scheduled task > that's retrieving posts (at 16:47 hours). It's the same task I ran > manually first. There's absolutely no reason why a simple scheduled > post retrieval script should immediately corrupt MariaDB beyond all > recognition. The scheduled task consists of nothing more than a script > (that runs as me), like: > > c:\xampp\php\php.exe c:\xampp\htdocs\news\retrieve.php -force > > It runs every 30 mins. > > And no, no write-delays, or computer crashes that preceded this. > > 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: Normal > shutdown > > 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] Event Scheduler: Purging the queue. 0 > events > > 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3504 [Note] InnoDB: FTS optimize thread exiting. > > 2016-06-06 15:52:27 3552 [Note] InnoDB: Starting shutdown... > > 2016-06-06 15:52:29 3552 [Note] InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log > sequence number 6767908697 > > 2016-06-06 15:52:29 3552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: > Shutdown complete > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 1e24 InnoDB: Warning: Using > innodb_additional_mem_pool_size is DEPRECATED. This option may be > removed in future releases, together with the option > innodb_use_sys_malloc and with the InnoDB's internal memory allocator. > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Using mutexes to ref count > buffer pool pages > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is > disabled > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use > Windows interlocked functions > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Memory barrier is not used > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib > 1.2.3 > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Using generic crc32 > instructions > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size > = 16.0M > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Completed initialization of > buffer pool > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Highest supported file format > is Barracuda. > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: 128 rollback segment(s) are active. > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Waiting for purge to start > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] InnoDB: Percona XtraDB > (http://www.percona.com) 5.6.28-76.1 started; log sequence number > 6767908697 > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7100 [Note] InnoDB: Dumping buffer pool(s) not yet > started > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Plugin 'FEEDBACK' is disabled. > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. > > 2016-06-06 16:39:16 7716 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: ready > for connections. > > Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org binary > distribution > > InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 250370 in space 69, > > InnoDB: space name spotweb/commentsxover, > > InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. > > InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. > > InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check that > > InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in the > > InnoDB: MySQL server. > > 2016-06-06 16:47:38 a74 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 2676 in > file fil0fil.cc line 5866 > > InnoDB: We intentionally generate a memory trap. > > InnoDB: Submit a detailed bug report to http://bugs.mysql.com. > > InnoDB: If you get repeated assertion failures or crashes, even > > InnoDB: immediately after the mysqld startup, there may be > > InnoDB: corruption in the InnoDB tablespace. Please refer to > > InnoDB: > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html > > InnoDB: about forcing recovery. > > 160606 16:47:38 [ERROR] mysqld got exception 0x80000003 ; > > This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that this > binary > > or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, improperly > built, > > or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by malfunctioning hardware. > > To report this bug, see https://mariadb.com/kb/en/reporting-bugs > > We will try our best to scrape up some info that will hopefully help > > diagnose the problem, but since we have already crashed, > > something is definitely wrong and this may fail. > > Server version: 10.1.13-MariaDB > > key_buffer_size=16777216 > > read_buffer_size=262144 > > max_used_connections=1 > > max_threads=1001 > > thread_count=1 > > It is possible that mysqld could use up to > > key_buffer_size + (read_buffer_size + sort_buffer_size)*max_threads = > 787100 K bytes of memory > > Hope that's ok; if not, decrease some variables in the equation. > > Thread pointer: 0x0x4af7270 > > Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find > out > > where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went > > terribly wrong... > > mysqld.exe!my_parameter_handler() > > mysqld.exe!my_mb_ctype_mb() > > mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!?functype@Item_func_dyncol_create@@UBE?AW4Functype@Item_fun > c@@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!?get_ctx@MDL_ticket@@QBEPAVMDL_context@@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!??0Global_read_lock@@QAE@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!??0Global_read_lock@@QAE@XZ() > > mysqld.exe!?get_trg_event_map@Update_rows_log_event@@UAEEXZ() > > mysqld.exe!?get_trg_event_map@Update_rows_log_event@@UAEEXZ() > > mysqld.exe!?ha_open@handler@@QAEHPAUTABLE@@PBDHI@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?open_table_from_share@@YA?AW4open_frm_error@@PAVTHD@@PAUTA > BLE_SHARE@@PBDIIIPAUTABLE@@_N@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?open_table@@YA_NPAVTHD@@PAUTABLE_LIST@@PAVOpen_table_conte > xt@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?recover_from_failed_open@Open_table_context@@QAE_NXZ() > > mysqld.exe!?open_tables@@YA_NPAVTHD@@ABUDDL_options_st@@PAPAUTABLE_LIS > T@@PAIIPAVPrelocking_strategy@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?open_and_lock_tables@@YA_NPAVTHD@@ABUDDL_options_st@@PAUTA > BLE_LIST@@_NIPAVPrelocking_strategy@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!??0Table_scope_and_contents_source_st@@QAE@ABU0@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?mysql_execute_command@@YAHPAVTHD@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?mysql_parse@@YAXPAVTHD@@PADIPAVParser_state@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?dispatch_command@@YA_NW4enum_server_command@@PAVTHD@@PADI@ > Z() > > mysqld.exe!?do_command@@YA_NPAVTHD@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?threadpool_process_request@@YAHPAVTHD@@@Z() > > mysqld.exe!?tp_end@@YAXXZ() > > KERNEL32.DLL!SetUserGeoID() > > ntdll.dll!TpSimpleTryPost() > > ntdll.dll!EtwNotificationRegister() > > KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk() > > ntdll.dll!RtlUnicodeStringToInteger() > > ntdll.dll!RtlUnicodeStringToInteger() > > Trying to get some variables. > > Some pointers may be invalid and cause the dump to abort. > > Query (0x4b01740): SELECT messageid FROM commentsxover ORDER BY id > DESC LIMIT 5000 > > Connection ID (thread ID): 2 > > Status: NOT_KILLED > > Optimizer switch: > index_merge=on,index_merge_union=on,index_merge_sort_union=on,index_me > rge_intersection=on,index_merge_sort_intersection=off,engine_condition > _pushdown=off,index_condition_pushdown=on,derived_merge=on,derived_wit > h_keys=on,firstmatch=on,loosescan=on,materialization=on,in_to_exists=o > n,semijoin=on,partial_match_rowid_merge=on,partial_match_table_scan=on > ,subquery_cache=on,mrr=off,mrr_cost_based=off,mrr_sort_keys=off,outer_ > join_with_cache=on,semijoin_with_cache=on,join_cache_incremental=on,jo > in_cache_hashed=on,join_cache_bka=on,optimize_join_buffer_size=off,tab > le_elimination=on,extended_keys=on,exists_to_in=on > > The manual page at http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/crashing.html > contains > > information that should help you find out what is causing the crash. > > *From:*Justin Swanhart [mailto:greenlion@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2016 16:16 > *To:* Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl> > *Cc:* maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > *Subject:* Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash > > Hi, > > Do you have write-behind caching turned on? Do you have RAID card > without BBU? Did your computer crash? If the OS or hardware (like > IDE HDD cache) lies about actually writing to disk, InnoDB can become > corrupted, and this is not the fault of innodb. Be aware that if this > is a VM, many VM lie about disk writes, a "feature" you must turn off. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 6, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl > <mailto:asarian@xs4all.nl>> wrote: > > Sorry I wiped the database; but it got to the point where MariaDB > immediately crashed upon startup (so the usual repair attempts were > futile, as they all kinda assume a MariaDB server that's up and > running). I have years of experience (FreeBSD) with myisam tables; > but a crash like this is a first for me, really, where the entire > database was foobarred to the point MariaDB wouldn't even start any > more. > > Thanks for creating the bug report. I shall investigate myself too, > in trying to find a way to integrate the MariaDB shutdown gracefully > (in UNIX this is all much simpler and straightforward). > > -Mark > > *From:*Vladislav Vaintroub [mailto:vvaintroub@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2016 11:39 > *To:* Mark <asarian(a)xs4all.nl <mailto:asarian@xs4all.nl>>; > maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Maria-discuss] Horrendeous InnoDB crash > > Yes, it is possible that Windows does not give enough time to > MariaDB to shut down gracefully. I just created a task for this one > here https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10183. > > Still, Innodb should handle this situation gracefully, and recover > on startup, so what you see is a bug. It is a pity that you wiped > down the database, it would be useful for a bug report. > > On 06.06.2016 11:08, Mark wrote: > > Got a huge crash today, right after initializing my first > MariaDB database (see below). Got several more errors about > tables having crashed later on, and MariaDB wouldn't even start > up any more (I wound up wiping the entire database). > > So, my question is, what could cause MariaDB to fail so > horrendeously?! I though InnoDB was supposed to be *better* than > myisam!? Is is because maybe Windows 10 doesn't give MariaDB > enough time to shut down gracefully? Could it be because a > Windows scheduler job (potentially) aborts the fetcher script > when it's still running? (Again, I though InnoDB was supposed to > be transaction-safe). > > In its current state, MariaDB is completely unusable for me. > > And no, I don't have hard disk errors. :) > > Seriously, though, I could use some major insight! > > Thanks. > > 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. > > 2016-06-06 10:32:15 2552 [Note] C:\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld.exe: > ready for connections. > > Version: '10.1.13-MariaDB' socket: '' port: 3306 mariadb.org > <http://mariadb.org> binary distribution > > InnoDB: Error: trying to access page number 251010 in space > 69, > > InnoDB: space name news/commentsxover, > > InnoDB: which is outside the tablespace bounds. > > InnoDB: Byte offset 0, len 16384, i/o type 10. > > InnoDB: If you get this error at mysqld startup, please check > that > > InnoDB: your my.cnf matches the ibdata files that you have in > the > > InnoDB: MySQL server. > > 2016-06-06 08:47:46 e08 InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread > 3592 in file fil0fil.cc <http://fil0fil.cc> line 5866 > > InnoDB: We intentionally generate a memory trap. > > InnoDB: Submit a detailed bug report to http://bugs.mysql.com. > > InnoDB: If you get repeated assertion failures or crashes, > even > > InnoDB: immediately after the mysqld startup, there may be > > InnoDB: corruption in the InnoDB tablespace. Please refer to > > InnoDB: > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html > > InnoDB: about forcing recovery. > > 160606 8:47:46 [ERROR] mysqld got exception 0x80000003 ; > > This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that > this binary > > or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, > improperly built, > > or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by > malfunctioning hardware. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list:https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > > Post to :maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe :https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > > More help :https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > Post to : maria-discuss(a)lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Chris Calender, M.S., Principal Support Engineer MariaDB Corporation

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