[Maria-discuss] Creating Custom Storage Engine
Hi All, I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Jonathan
Hi, Jonathan! On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development... Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1107279/Writing-a-MySQL-storage-engine-f... is also a recent blog. Was written with MySQL rather than MariaDB in mind however there are probably lots of common concepts. On 19/07/16 20:00, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Hi, Jonathan!
On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development...
Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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I struggled to find good examples / blogs of creating a storage engine. I used the MySQL references the most for developing a storage engine. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/custom-engine.html Here is a Python Engine I've worked on. It does support indexes and it is read only right now, but hey it is progress. My hope and goal was to make it so that I could prototype engines in Python before writing them in C. I may have some time in the next month or two to take it further, but that is still in the air. https://github.com/reflectivedevelopment/mariadb-plugin-python-engine -Kim On 07/19/2016 07:17 PM, Daniel Black wrote:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1107279/Writing-a-MySQL-storage-engine-f... is also a recent blog. Was written with MySQL rather than MariaDB in mind however there are probably lots of common concepts.
On 19/07/16 20:00, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Hi, Jonathan!
On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development...
Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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Typo: It does*n't* support indexes. On 07/19/2016 09:48 PM, Kim Ebert wrote:
I struggled to find good examples / blogs of creating a storage engine. I used the MySQL references the most for developing a storage engine.
https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/custom-engine.html
Here is a Python Engine I've worked on. It does support indexes and it is read only right now, but hey it is progress. My hope and goal was to make it so that I could prototype engines in Python before writing them in C. I may have some time in the next month or two to take it further, but that is still in the air.
https://github.com/reflectivedevelopment/mariadb-plugin-python-engine
-Kim
On 07/19/2016 07:17 PM, Daniel Black wrote:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1107279/Writing-a-MySQL-storage-engine-f...
is also a recent blog. Was written with MySQL rather than MariaDB in mind however there are probably lots of common concepts.
On 19/07/16 20:00, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Hi, Jonathan!
On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development...
Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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Thanks for the references! That helps a lot One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done? Jonathan On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM Kim Ebert <kim@kd7ike.info> wrote:
I struggled to find good examples / blogs of creating a storage engine. I used the MySQL references the most for developing a storage engine.
https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/custom-engine.html
Here is a Python Engine I've worked on. It does support indexes and it is read only right now, but hey it is progress. My hope and goal was to make it so that I could prototype engines in Python before writing them in C. I may have some time in the next month or two to take it further, but that is still in the air.
https://github.com/reflectivedevelopment/mariadb-plugin-python-engine
-Kim
On 07/19/2016 07:17 PM, Daniel Black wrote:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1107279/Writing-a-MySQL-storage-engine-f...
is also a recent blog. Was written with MySQL rather than MariaDB in mind however there are probably lots of common concepts.
On 19/07/16 20:00, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Hi, Jonathan!
On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book.
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development...
Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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Follow-up: I see in the blog pointed to by Daniel mentioned an SE for Cassandra.... so I take it the answer is yes? Does anyone have experience with this / know if anything "extra" must be done to make that work? Jonathan On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM Jonathan Ellithorpe <jde@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the references! That helps a lot
One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done?
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM Kim Ebert <kim@kd7ike.info> wrote:
I struggled to find good examples / blogs of creating a storage engine. I used the MySQL references the most for developing a storage engine.
https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/custom-engine.html
Here is a Python Engine I've worked on. It does support indexes and it is read only right now, but hey it is progress. My hope and goal was to make it so that I could prototype engines in Python before writing them in C. I may have some time in the next month or two to take it further, but that is still in the air.
https://github.com/reflectivedevelopment/mariadb-plugin-python-engine
-Kim
On 07/19/2016 07:17 PM, Daniel Black wrote:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1107279/Writing-a-MySQL-storage-engine-f...
is also a recent blog. Was written with MySQL rather than MariaDB in mind however there are probably lots of common concepts.
On 19/07/16 20:00, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Hi, Jonathan!
On Jul 18, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hi All,
I searched around but couldn't find documentation / tutorials on creating a custom storage backend for MariaDB. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Storage engine examples in the source tree. "MySQL 5.1 Plugin Development" book.
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/storage-engines-storage-engine-development...
Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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On 20/07/16 14:31, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Follow-up: I see in the blog pointed to by Daniel mentioned an SE for Cassandra.... so I take it the answer is yes? Does anyone have experience with this / know if anything "extra" must be done to make that work?
It falls to the responsibility of the storage engine to ensure that the ACID guarantees are implemented.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM Jonathan Ellithorpe <jde@cs.stanford.edu <mailto:jde@cs.stanford.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the references! That helps a lot
One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done?
I see... so the MariaDB top-half (by "top-half" I mean everything that sits above the storage engine) doesn't do nasty things like caching? If it did, then writes at other MariaDB sites wouldn't show up in reads performed at the site caching the data. If the MariaDB top-half does nothing more than essentially translate user operations / queries into calls on the SE, then in theory nothing special must be done to deploy MariaDB at multiple sites accessing a shared storage engine. Jonathan On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:20 PM Daniel Black <daniel.black@au1.ibm.com> wrote:
On 20/07/16 14:31, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Follow-up: I see in the blog pointed to by Daniel mentioned an SE for Cassandra.... so I take it the answer is yes? Does anyone have experience with this / know if anything "extra" must be done to make that work?
It falls to the responsibility of the storage engine to ensure that the ACID guarantees are implemented.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM Jonathan Ellithorpe <jde@cs.stanford.edu <mailto:jde@cs.stanford.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the references! That helps a lot
One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done?
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This discussion is much more interesting than the one on the quiet MySQL lists. I assume you need to worry about the top half caching dictionary information about indexes & tables. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Ellithorpe <jde@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
I see... so the MariaDB top-half (by "top-half" I mean everything that sits above the storage engine) doesn't do nasty things like caching? If it did, then writes at other MariaDB sites wouldn't show up in reads performed at the site caching the data.
If the MariaDB top-half does nothing more than essentially translate user operations / queries into calls on the SE, then in theory nothing special must be done to deploy MariaDB at multiple sites accessing a shared storage engine.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:20 PM Daniel Black <daniel.black@au1.ibm.com> wrote:
On 20/07/16 14:31, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Follow-up: I see in the blog pointed to by Daniel mentioned an SE for Cassandra.... so I take it the answer is yes? Does anyone have experience with this / know if anything "extra" must be done to make that work?
It falls to the responsibility of the storage engine to ensure that the ACID guarantees are implemented.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM Jonathan Ellithorpe < jde@cs.stanford.edu <mailto:jde@cs.stanford.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the references! That helps a lot
One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done?
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Hehe, yes, I took the shotgun approach. The MySQL lists don't seem to be quite as active, and the MySQL forum moderators seem to take about 1-2 days before they approve my posts. Hmm... thanks for pointing that out about system metadata caching. I'll have the solve the problem of MariaDB thinking something exists (table/index/...) when it doesn't, or thinking that something doesn't exist when it does.... Thanks for your help! Jonathan On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM MARK CALLAGHAN <mdcallag@gmail.com> wrote:
This discussion is much more interesting than the one on the quiet MySQL lists. I assume you need to worry about the top half caching dictionary information about indexes & tables.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Ellithorpe <jde@cs.stanford.edu
wrote:
I see... so the MariaDB top-half (by "top-half" I mean everything that sits above the storage engine) doesn't do nasty things like caching? If it did, then writes at other MariaDB sites wouldn't show up in reads performed at the site caching the data.
If the MariaDB top-half does nothing more than essentially translate user operations / queries into calls on the SE, then in theory nothing special must be done to deploy MariaDB at multiple sites accessing a shared storage engine.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:20 PM Daniel Black <daniel.black@au1.ibm.com> wrote:
On 20/07/16 14:31, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Follow-up: I see in the blog pointed to by Daniel mentioned an SE for Cassandra.... so I take it the answer is yes? Does anyone have experience with this / know if anything "extra" must be done to make that work?
It falls to the responsibility of the storage engine to ensure that the ACID guarantees are implemented.
Jonathan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM Jonathan Ellithorpe < jde@cs.stanford.edu <mailto:jde@cs.stanford.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the references! That helps a lot
One other question I have is: can MariaDB work in a distributed fashion? To be more clear, the storage backend I'm developing is distributed, like Cassandra, and I would like to deploy many MariaDB instances that all access the same storage cluster. Can this be done?
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Hi, Jonathan! On Jul 20, Jonathan Ellithorpe wrote:
Hmm... thanks for pointing that out about system metadata caching. I'll have the solve the problem of MariaDB thinking something exists (table/index/...) when it doesn't, or thinking that something doesn't exist when it does....
We have a solution for that, see https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/table-discovery/ It was initially created exactly for this problem - when many MySQL servers connect to the same NDB cluster, and the table is created on one node and used on another. Note that to support for SQL semantics you might need some kind of a distributed lock manager. For example, the server does not expect table metadata to change *while the UPDATE is running*. Or if SELECT needs to do multiple table scans, it expects to see the same set or rows in all these table scans. Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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