[Maria-discuss] Debian revision should not contain codename
Hi, I'm attempting to upgrade a machine with MariaDB 10.6 from Buster to Bullseye using the official MariaDB repo. I was surprised to see that apt wanted to downgrade a few packages: ``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb3 mysql-common ``` I was confused at first, as the priority of the candidate is higher, and the epoch is unchanged, and the upstream version is unchanged: ``` $ apt policy mysql-common mysql-common: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 5.8+1.0.7 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb3 libmariadb3: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb-dev-compat: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages ``` A simulation also reported that apt would 'downgrade' to the same versions: ``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs -s Inst libmariadb-dev [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb-dev-compat [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb3 [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) Inst mysql-common [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [all]) ``` Some folks on IRC pointed me to the fact that the Debian revision has been updated from `maria~buster` to `maria~bullseye`. The following documentation at https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi... says:
The lexical comparison is a comparison of ASCII values modified so that all the letters sort earlier than all the non-letters and so that a tilde sorts before anything, even the end of a part.
'bul' comes before 'bus', so the package for Bullseye is perceived as older, despite it being the same effective upstream version... According to https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi..., the Debian revision should NOT contain the Debian release codename. This problem will re-appear with Bookworm. Could the package maintainer(s) attend to this? -- With kind regards, William Edwards
Hi William!
To make sure this does not get lost, can you please file a Jira entry with
the same details at jira.mariadb.org?
You'll also get notified of the progress that way.
Vicentiu
On Thu, 19 May 2022, 18:17 William Edwards,
Hi,
I'm attempting to upgrade a machine with MariaDB 10.6 from Buster to Bullseye using the official MariaDB repo.
I was surprised to see that apt wanted to downgrade a few packages:
``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb3 mysql-common ```
I was confused at first, as the priority of the candidate is higher, and the epoch is unchanged, and the upstream version is unchanged:
``` $ apt policy mysql-common mysql-common: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 5.8+1.0.7 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb3 libmariadb3: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb-dev-compat: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages ```
A simulation also reported that apt would 'downgrade' to the same versions:
``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs -s Inst libmariadb-dev [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb-dev-compat [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb3 [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [amd64]) Inst mysql-common [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [all]) ```
Some folks on IRC pointed me to the fact that the Debian revision has been updated from `maria~buster` to `maria~bullseye`. The following documentation at
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi... says:
The lexical comparison is a comparison of ASCII values modified so that all the letters sort earlier than all the non-letters and so that a tilde sorts before anything, even the end of a part.
'bul' comes before 'bus', so the package for Bullseye is perceived as older, despite it being the same effective upstream version...
According to
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi...,
the Debian revision should NOT contain the Debian release codename. This problem will re-appear with Bookworm.
Could the package maintainer(s) attend to this?
-- With kind regards,
William Edwards
_______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Hi Vicențiu, Vicențiu Ciorbaru schreef op 2022-05-19 17:44:
Hi William!
To make sure this does not get lost, can you please file a Jira entry with the same details at jira.mariadb.org [2]?
Done: MDEV-28628
You'll also get notified of the progress that way.
Vicentiu
On Thu, 19 May 2022, 18:17 William Edwards,
wrote: Hi,
I'm attempting to upgrade a machine with MariaDB 10.6 from Buster to
Bullseye using the official MariaDB repo.
I was surprised to see that apt wanted to downgrade a few packages:
``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb3 mysql-common ```
I was confused at first, as the priority of the candidate is higher, and the epoch is unchanged, and the upstream version is unchanged:
``` $ apt policy mysql-common mysql-common: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main arm64 Packages 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main ppc64el Packages 5.8+1.0.7 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb3 libmariadb3: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev-compat libmariadb-dev-compat: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages $ apt policy libmariadb-dev libmariadb-dev: Installed: 1:10.6.7+maria~buster Candidate: 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye Version table: *** 1:10.6.7+maria~buster 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.5+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.6.4+maria~bullseye 1000 1000 http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.6/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 1:10.5.15-0+deb11u1 500 500 http://debmirror.tuxis.nl/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages ```
A simulation also reported that apt would 'downgrade' to the same versions:
``` $ apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs -s Inst libmariadb-dev [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye
MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [1] [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb-dev-compat [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [1] [amd64]) [] Inst libmariadb3 [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [1] [amd64]) Inst mysql-common [1:10.6.7+maria~buster] (1:10.6.7+maria~bullseye MariaDB:ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [1] [all]) ```
Some folks on IRC pointed me to the fact that the Debian revision has been updated from `maria~buster` to `maria~bullseye`. The following documentation at
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi...
says:
The lexical comparison is a comparison of ASCII values modified so that all the letters sort earlier than all the non-letters and so that a tilde sorts before anything, even the end of a part.
'bul' comes before 'bus', so the package for Bullseye is perceived as older, despite it being the same effective upstream version...
According to
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#special-versi...,
the Debian revision should NOT contain the Debian release codename. This problem will re-appear with Bookworm.
Could the package maintainer(s) attend to this?
-- With kind regards,
William Edwards
_______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Links: ------ [1] http://ams2.mirrors.digitalocean.com [2] http://jira.mariadb.org
-- With kind regards, William Edwards
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