[Maria-discuss] Josh Berkus on community
Nice set of points on bad community management raised by Josh Berkus. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/370157/31a2534da9d465d3/ Do you disagree with any? Are there any things you would add? Do you think our projects suffer from any of these problems, and what constructive criticism do you have? Also, is there stuff you'd like to see the Maria community do? I think these points are a good jumping-off point to make sure we do things right. -- ./k kurt von finck http://www.mneptok.com public key: keyserver.ubuntu.com key id: 5229D26A fingerprint: 127A A484 ADBF A5AD E7FB 8CD2 8913 18F4 5229 D26A Music is the space between the notes. - Debussy
On 19/01/2010 14:12, Kurt von Finck wrote:
Nice set of points on bad community management raised by Josh Berkus.
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/370157/31a2534da9d465d3/
Do you disagree with any? Are there any things you would add? Do you think our projects suffer from any of these problems, and what constructive criticism do you have?
Also, is there stuff you'd like to see the Maria community do?
I think these points are a good jumping-off point to make sure we do things right.
Also, as a reference: http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2008/05/07/ten-ways-to-destroy-your-com... Josh gave a similar talk in 2008, and I wrote random notes about it there Cheers, -c -- Colin Charles, http://bytebot.net/blog/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Hi!
"Kurt" == Kurt von Finck <mneptok@mneptok.com> writes:
Kurt> Nice set of points on bad community management raised by Josh Berkus. Kurt> http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/370157/31a2534da9d465d3/ Kurt> Do you disagree with any? Are there any things you would add? Do you Kurt> think our projects suffer from any of these problems, and what Kurt> constructive criticism do you have? Don't see any constructive criticism for what we do now, except that we have more maria-captains than any other company (but at least we are open about wanting more). There is a lot of things to be add: - Make closed source external modules for the free project. - Actively work against anyone doing similar projects. - From time to time, move things from 'open' to 'closed' - When presenting new features for upcoming releases, don't tell anyone in which version the new features will be in (open or closed). - Market the 'open source version' as for testing only and unreliable for production. - Don't release binaries for open source version. - Update open source version less often than the closed source version. - Use different source trees for open and close version; First develop the closed source version and only backport unimportant things to open source version Kurt> Also, is there stuff you'd like to see the Maria community do? Primarily we need more companies participating with the development of MariaDB. Kurt> I think these points are a good jumping-off point to make sure we do Kurt> things right. Yes. Regards, Monty
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:24:16 +0200, Michael Widenius <monty@askmonty.org> wrote:
Kurt> Nice set of points on bad community management raised by Josh Berkus. Kurt> http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/370157/31a2534da9d465d3/
There is a lot of things to be add:
I'd add - doing code reviews in private - mixing code reviews with a high traffic commit list so it's impossible to ever find the reviews - never answer email on the public list -- Stewart Smith
On 19.01.2010, at 07:12, Kurt von Finck wrote:
Nice set of points on bad community management raised by Josh Berkus.
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/370157/31a2534da9d465d3/
Do you disagree with any? Are there any things you would add? Do you think our projects suffer from any of these problems, and what constructive criticism do you have?
We have had issue #1 "depend on difficult tools", but that is already solved with our switch to bzr.
Also, is there stuff you'd like to see the Maria community do?
I think these points are a good jumping-off point to make sure we do things right.
I would add as #11 Develop a closed and open source version of your software and only listen to feature request of your closed source customers. Overall we got a lot better than MySQL was in 2004/2005. Best regards, Hakan -- Hakan Küçükyılmaz, QA/Benchmark Engineer, Stuttgart/Germany Monty Program Ab, http://askmonty.org/ Skype: hakank_ Phone: +49 171 1919839
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