[Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server maintenance policy for 10.0
Hi! I just read: https://mariadb.org/about/maintenance-policy/ It says the 5 year boundary date for support ending for 10.0 is 31 Mar 2019, and later goes on to specify why 5.5 has a later EOL, "The MariaDB Foundation may decide to maintain selected releases beyond the normal 5 years if they are in exceptionally widespread use. As MariaDB 5.5 is included in multiple prominent Linux distributions with a lifespan beyond 2017, the Foundation is committed in maintaining it until 2020." Is SUSE Enterprise Linux Server 12, with MariaDB Server 10.0, not considered a “prominent Linux distribution”? SLES12 released in 2014, comes with MariaDB Server 10.0, and requires at least 10 years of support (https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/). Just checking to see if the maintenance policy above is in error Thanks -- Colin Charles, http://bytebot.net/blog/ twitter: @bytebot | skype: colincharles "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Even OpenSuSE LEAP 42.3 (latest OpenSuSE release) ships with MariaDB 10.0.x. -- Peter On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Colin Charles <byte@aeon.com.my> wrote:
Hi!
I just read: https://mariadb.org/about/maintenance-policy/
It says the 5 year boundary date for support ending for 10.0 is 31 Mar 2019, and later goes on to specify why 5.5 has a later EOL, "The MariaDB Foundation may decide to maintain selected releases beyond the normal 5 years if they are in exceptionally widespread use. As MariaDB 5.5 is included in multiple prominent Linux distributions with a lifespan beyond 2017, the Foundation is committed in maintaining it until 2020."
Is SUSE Enterprise Linux Server 12, with MariaDB Server 10.0, not considered a “prominent Linux distribution”? SLES12 released in 2014, comes with MariaDB Server 10.0, and requires at least 10 years of support ( https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/).
Just checking to see if the maintenance policy above is in error
Thanks -- Colin Charles, http://bytebot.net/blog/ twitter: @bytebot | skype: colincharles "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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Hi, Colin! On Apr 26, Colin Charles wrote:
Hi!
I just read: https://mariadb.org/about/maintenance-policy/
It says the 5 year boundary date for support ending for 10.0 is 31 Mar 2019, and later goes on to specify why 5.5 has a later EOL, "The MariaDB Foundation may decide to maintain selected releases beyond the normal 5 years if they are in exceptionally widespread use. As MariaDB 5.5 is included in multiple prominent Linux distributions with a lifespan beyond 2017, the Foundation is committed in maintaining it until 2020."
Is SUSE Enterprise Linux Server 12, with MariaDB Server 10.0, not considered a “prominent Linux distribution”? SLES12 released in 2014, comes with MariaDB Server 10.0, and requires at least 10 years of support (https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/).
Just checking to see if the maintenance policy above is in error
No, it is not an error. There was a discussion and a decision specifically for 5.5. We simply haven't discussed 10.0 EOL yet, there was no decision not to extend 10.0 lifespan. And, strictly speaking, SLES12 is not "multiple distributions" :) But good point about SUSE, thanks. Apparently we need to discuss 10.0 EOL too, someday in the course of the next two years. Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
Serg,
On 27 Apr 2017, at 00:04, Sergei Golubchik <serg@mariadb.org> wrote:
Hi, Colin!
On Apr 26, Colin Charles wrote:
Hi!
I just read: https://mariadb.org/about/maintenance-policy/
It says the 5 year boundary date for support ending for 10.0 is 31 Mar 2019, and later goes on to specify why 5.5 has a later EOL, "The MariaDB Foundation may decide to maintain selected releases beyond the normal 5 years if they are in exceptionally widespread use. As MariaDB 5.5 is included in multiple prominent Linux distributions with a lifespan beyond 2017, the Foundation is committed in maintaining it until 2020."
Is SUSE Enterprise Linux Server 12, with MariaDB Server 10.0, not considered a “prominent Linux distribution”? SLES12 released in 2014, comes with MariaDB Server 10.0, and requires at least 10 years of support (https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/).
Just checking to see if the maintenance policy above is in error
No, it is not an error. There was a discussion and a decision specifically for 5.5. We simply haven't discussed 10.0 EOL yet, there was no decision not to extend 10.0 lifespan.
OK. Glad this is on the radar. I think it makes sense to have these discussions in public so that others can reference them to know why such a decision was made. This is all about transparency, isn’t it?
And, strictly speaking, SLES12 is not "multiple distributions" :)
Neither is RHEL7 or its derivatives, multiple distributions :) (with long support cycles)
But good point about SUSE, thanks. Apparently we need to discuss 10.0 EOL too, someday in the course of the next two years.
Thank you. Also pay attention to MariaDB Server 10.1 dates to sync with Debian (3 years from 2017, but also the LTS folk) - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases -- Colin Charles, http://bytebot.net/blog/ twitter: @bytebot | skype: colincharles "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Hi, Colin! On Apr 27, Colin Charles wrote:
Hi, Colin!
On Apr 26, Colin Charles wrote:
Hi!
I just read: https://mariadb.org/about/maintenance-policy/
It says the 5 year boundary date for support ending for 10.0 is 31 Mar 2019, and later goes on to specify why 5.5 has a later EOL, "The MariaDB Foundation may decide to maintain selected releases beyond the normal 5 years if they are in exceptionally widespread use. As MariaDB 5.5 is included in multiple prominent Linux distributions with a lifespan beyond 2017, the Foundation is committed in maintaining it until 2020."
Is SUSE Enterprise Linux Server 12, with MariaDB Server 10.0, not considered a “prominent Linux distribution”? SLES12 released in 2014, comes with MariaDB Server 10.0, and requires at least 10 years of support (https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/).
Just checking to see if the maintenance policy above is in error
No, it is not an error. There was a discussion and a decision specifically for 5.5. We simply haven't discussed 10.0 EOL yet, there was no decision not to extend 10.0 lifespan.
OK. Glad this is on the radar. I think it makes sense to have these discussions in public so that others can reference them to know why such a decision was made. This is all about transparency, isn’t it?
Yes, I agree.
But good point about SUSE, thanks. Apparently we need to discuss 10.0 EOL too, someday in the course of the next two years.
Thank you. Also pay attention to MariaDB Server 10.1 dates to sync with Debian (3 years from 2017, but also the LTS folk) - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
Yes, but I'm sure that Otto will take care of that. He won't forget about Debian :) Regards, Sergei Chief Architect MariaDB and security@mariadb.org
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