[Maria-discuss] Oracle sets 'tone' and standard/level of discussion
http://mysqlrelease.com/2014/12/official-mysql-repos-for-suse-linux/ "Regarding SUSE Linux Enterprise 12, SUSE unfortunately chose to not provide users with a mature and robust version of MySQL as part of the distro," https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#fate-316482 "The MariaDB open source database replaces the MySQL database system." I also posted this comment (don't know it it will be approved) *“Regarding SUSE Linux Enterprise 12, SUSE unfortunately chose to not provide users with a mature and robust version of MySQL as part of the distro .. ”* *https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#fate-316482 <https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#fate-316482>“The MariaDB open source database replaces the MySQL database system.”* *Maybe rather Oracle should try to understand *WHY” almost all recent Linux distros (as well as most major web2 companies) have switched to MariaDB.* *One important reason is that the public bug-tracker for Oracle/MySQL is incomplete. This was the most stupid thing Oracle ever did to MySQL and it is completely unacceptable in the open-source world. Another reason is that patches that are released as strictly GPL cannot be included in Oracle/MySQL. MariaDB can freely use such patches – primarily from major web2 companies (Google,Facebook etc.) – and they are doing and we have only seen the beginning.* *@guys .. soon time to find another employer!* -- Peter -- Webyog
And I wrote: "In other words, distros that prefer MariaDB are unstable and not mature? This post is offensive. Shame on this kind of marketing." But I don't think that these guys accept criticism. It's against their religion. Regards Federico -------------------------------------------- Gio 4/12/14, Peter Laursen <peter_laursen@webyog.com> ha scritto: Oggetto: [Maria-discuss] Oracle sets 'tone' and standard/level of discussion A: "Maria Discuss" <maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net> Data: Giovedì 4 dicembre 2014, 20:46 http://mysqlrelease.com/2014/12/official-mysql-repos-for-suse-linux/ "Regarding SUSE Linux Enterprise 12, SUSE unfortunately chose to not provide users with a mature and robust version of MySQL as part of the distro," https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#fate-316482 "The MariaDB open source database replaces the MySQL database system." I also posted this comment (don't know it it will be approved) “Regarding SUSE Linux Enterprise 12, SUSE unfortunately chose to not provide users with a mature and robust version of MySQL as part of the distro .. ”https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#fate-316482 “The MariaDB open source database replaces the MySQL database system.”Maybe rather Oracle should try to understand *WHY” almost all recent Linux distros (as well as most major web2 companies) have switched to MariaDB.One important reason is that the public bug-tracker for Oracle/MySQL is incomplete. This was the most stupid thing Oracle ever did to MySQL and it is completely unacceptable in the open-source world. Another reason is that patches that are released as strictly GPL cannot be included in Oracle/MySQL. MariaDB can freely use such patches – primarily from major web2 companies (Google,Facebook etc.) – and they are doing and we have only seen the beginning.@guys .. soon time to find another employer! -- Peter-- Webyog -----Segue allegato----- _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
--On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:11 PM +0000 Federico Razzoli <federico_raz@yahoo.it> wrote:
And I wrote:
"In other words, distros that prefer MariaDB are unstable and not mature? This post is offensive. Shame on this kind of marketing."
But I don't think that these guys accept criticism. It's against their religion.
People still use mysql? ;) --Quanah -- Quanah Gibson-Mount Platform Architect Zimbra, Inc. -------------------- Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
Quanah Gibson-Mount <quanah@zimbra.com> writes:
--On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:11 PM +0000 Federico Razzoli <federico_raz@yahoo.it> wrote:
And I wrote:
"In other words, distros that prefer MariaDB are unstable and not mature? This post is offensive. Shame on this kind of marketing."
But I don't think that these guys accept criticism. It's against their religion.
People still use mysql? ;)
From Debian popcon: mysql-server-core-5.5 43643 mysql-server-core-5.1 10584 mysql-server-5.1 9617 mysql-server-5.0 4001 mariadb-server 1115 mariadb-server-core-10.0 644 mariadb-server-10.0 636 mariadb-server-5.5 588 drizzle 106 From Ubuntu popcon: mysql-server-core-5.1 349832 mysql-server 312886 mysql-server-5.0 171080 mysql-server-core-5.5 151315 mysql-server-5.1 135229 mysql-server-5.5 54590 mariadb-server 384 mariadb-server-core-5.5 252 mariadb-server-5.5 238 mariadb-server-core-10.0 122 drizzle 106 I include Drizzle as it's my baby even though we haven't made a release in 2 years. If we go by http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/stats/server_count_by_month/ then we see that Maria is hedging towards 6,000 installs reporting back. ALthough some of the other stats give different totals, so I'm really not sure what to make of that. -- Stewart Smith
Am 05.01.2015 um 07:52 schrieb Stewart Smith:
Quanah Gibson-Mount <quanah@zimbra.com> writes:
--On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:11 PM +0000 Federico Razzoli <federico_raz@yahoo.it> wrote:
And I wrote:
"In other words, distros that prefer MariaDB are unstable and not mature? This post is offensive. Shame on this kind of marketing."
But I don't think that these guys accept criticism. It's against their religion.
People still use mysql? ;)
From Debian popcon: mysql-server-core-5.5 43643 mysql-server-core-5.1 10584 mysql-server-5.1 9617 mysql-server-5.0 4001 mariadb-server 1115 mariadb-server-core-10.0 644 mariadb-server-10.0 636 mariadb-server-5.5 588 drizzle 106
the world is not Debian/Ubuntu nor has free software spy-functions on by default and sou you have no real conuts
If we go by http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/stats/server_count_by_month/ then we see that Maria is hedging towards 6,000 installs reporting back.
RHEL//CentOS7/Fedora are using MariaDB as *default* MySQL replacement and likely exceed that 6000 installs, i personally count 15 and they are not reporting back - why should they?
ALthough some of the other stats give different totals, so I'm really not sure what to make of that.
Excerpts from Reindl Harald's message of 2015-01-05 00:16:20 -0800:
Am 05.01.2015 um 07:52 schrieb Stewart Smith:
Quanah Gibson-Mount <quanah@zimbra.com> writes:
--On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:11 PM +0000 Federico Razzoli <federico_raz@yahoo.it> wrote:
And I wrote:
"In other words, distros that prefer MariaDB are unstable and not mature? This post is offensive. Shame on this kind of marketing."
But I don't think that these guys accept criticism. It's against their religion.
People still use mysql? ;)
From Debian popcon: mysql-server-core-5.5 43643 mysql-server-core-5.1 10584 mysql-server-5.1 9617 mysql-server-5.0 4001 mariadb-server 1115 mariadb-server-core-10.0 644 mariadb-server-10.0 636 mariadb-server-5.5 588 drizzle 106
the world is not Debian/Ubuntu nor has free software spy-functions on by default and sou you have no real conuts
If we go by http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/stats/server_count_by_month/ then we see that Maria is hedging towards 6,000 installs reporting back.
RHEL//CentOS7/Fedora are using MariaDB as *default* MySQL replacement and likely exceed that 6000 installs, i personally count 15 and they are not reporting back - why should they?
The question wasn't "Is MySQL winning?" It was "People still use mysql?". Stewart answered it: Yes.
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