[Maria-discuss] Fwd: Update of RPM layout
Hello all,
I went through an idea [1] to lighten the server package.
I tested it, and I found out, I can save about 40MB of space, if I'd move all Perl utilites to a standalone subpackage. It would make sense to move them, so the users don't need to install Perl with the server package. Especially in technologies like containers (or cloud images) size matters.
It all depends on how often are those utilities [2] used together with the server, sice we don't want to displace importatnt scripts. In case, it would look like a good idea, there is also option to move to this subpackage other - infrequently used - utilities. -> Q: Hey, Users and Admins, which utilities do you think are essential for the server?
Note: It can be solved by soft dependencies, so those utils would be installed with the server by default.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205082
[2] mysql_find_rows mysqlaccess mysql_convert_table_format mysql_fix_extensions mysql_setpermission mysql_zap mysqldumpslow mysqld_multi mysqlhotcopy
On 22/12/16 03:29, Michal Schorm wrote:
Hello all,
I went through an idea [1] to lighten the server package.
I tested it, and I found out, I can save about 40MB of space, if I'd move all Perl utilites to a standalone subpackage. It would make sense to move them, so the users don't need to install Perl with the server package. Especially in technologies like containers (or cloud images) size matters.
good goal.
It all depends on how often are those utilities [2] used together with the server, sice we don't want to displace importatnt scripts. In case, it would look like a good idea, there is also option to move to this subpackage other - infrequently used - utilities. -> Q: Hey, Users and Admins, which utilities do you think are essential for the server?
Note: It can be solved by soft dependencies, so those utils would be installed with the server by default.
A separate extras package is probably sufficient.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205082 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205082
[2] mysql_find_rows mysqlaccess mysql_convert_table_format mysql_fix_extensions mysql_setpermission mysql_zap mysqldumpslow mysqld_multi mysqlhotcopy
In 3 years of consulting I have never used any of these tools.
Thanks Daniel.
I would appreciate much more replies, in order to make this bigger change.
Is there any better way to reach the admins and users? Another mailing list? IRC?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Daniel Black daniel.black@au1.ibm.com wrote:
On 22/12/16 03:29, Michal Schorm wrote:
Hello all,
I went through an idea [1] to lighten the server package.
I tested it, and I found out, I can save about 40MB of space, if I'd move all Perl utilites to a standalone subpackage. It would make sense to move them, so the users don't need to install Perl with the server package. Especially in technologies like containers (or cloud images) size
matters.
good goal.
It all depends on how often are those utilities [2] used together with the server, sice we don't want to displace importatnt scripts. In case, it would look like a good idea, there is also option to move to this subpackage other - infrequently used - utilities. -> Q: Hey, Users and Admins, which utilities do you think are essential for the server?
Note: It can be solved by soft dependencies, so those utils would be installed with the server by default.
A separate extras package is probably sufficient.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205082 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205082
[2] mysql_find_rows mysqlaccess mysql_convert_table_format mysql_fix_extensions mysql_setpermission mysql_zap mysqldumpslow mysqld_multi mysqlhotcopy
In 3 years of consulting I have never used any of these tools.
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Daniel Black daniel.black@au1.ibm.com wrote:
In 3 years of consulting I have never used any of these tools.
Haha, me too! I've never recommended it to any customer before.
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