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> * InnoDB: InnoDB native partitioning - so MySQL 8 InnoDB? But Monty says there's next to no changes in InnoDB 8...
Instant add column. New InnoDB deadlock detection (8.0). New INFORMATION_SCHEMA table (8.0). Dedicated
tablespace for temporary tables (in 5.7 and merged, check). Lock wait policy (contribution)
Monty is
notorious for low balling estimates. His famous phrase is "it is trivial". Everybody knows that if Monty says it is trivial, you can add 10x the work to get it done, or more. I am loathe to bring up CS, but it is a perfect example. You have to look no further than the time estimates for the CS project. The CS team was forced to accept an unacceptable timeline based on poor estimates by non-CS team members, and when the team couldn't meet arbitrary deadlines an alpha was shipped that should never have touched customer systems, and could have damaged them. InnoDB 8 also includes transportable tablespaces for partitioned tables, and will likely support native partitioning by the time 8 rolls. Native partitioning also entails implementing the changes to the SE. See:
http://mysqlserverteam.com/innodb-native-partitioning-early-access/
> * Pluggable parser - MDEV-10142, PL/SQL parser, Oracle syntax support, INTERSECT, EXCLUDE
FULL OUTER JOIN? Table functions?
> * more for window functions (user defined window functions, MDEV-10855)
What other databases have user definable window functions? Will the syntax be similar? I can't really think of a reason to need custom window functions personally, as the existing set is very comprehensive. What kind of custom window function do you think people would need to write? In most implementations any aggregate functions can be used in a window frame context, thus any aggregate SQL functions should satisfy requirements for user defined window funcs.
> * more for CTEs (CTE sharing isn't in now, and MySQL 8 has it, so needs to be done; Writable CTEs)
I assume writable CTE will have the same restrictions as updateable views?
> * "always encrypt" on the client side - Booking says there is no particular interest in this at the moment.
Other RDBMS are rolling this out though. Microsoft has a new
ADO.NET layer that supports end-to-end encryption from data at rest, to where it is accessed in the client.
> * socket authentication
Can you explain this. Is there an MDEV?
> * X Protocol/Document store - only if people have time or money will it be done
If you want people to pay for it, perhaps you should implement it in MaxScale instead of the server :)
>* Peter asks if there is any plans to support other languages like V8? Supporting legacy database like Oracle PL/SQL is nice, but what about JavaScript and stuff? Eric mentions his old work on Perl and Java external language stored procedures. Peter says, if JSON and JavaScript are your lingua franca, PL/SQL isn't so interesting - but there was no interest in this amongst the folk.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IMPLEMENT WL-820. External stored procs and table functions. Been sitting there for the taking for a long time. Antony has tried to get you to get it into the server, but alas, it has never happened, and though there continues to be wide requests for this feature from the community, they fall on deaf ears.
ALSO: PL/SQL support requires support for ARRAYS and other contructs that MySQL doesn't have. Without greatly improving the SQL language support, even basic Oracle 7 PL/SQL blocks won't work. MySQL cursor support is kind of lacking, and UPDATE WHERE CURRENT OF, etc, could be quite hard to implement.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add proper array support. PLEASE.
> * Compressed binary log (from Tencent)
Compressing the binary log saves on space on the master, but it makes seeking into binary logs much more difficult, and searching backwards through them becomes much more difficult (which has implications for query 'rewind')
> * For ALTER TABLE show the corresponding CREATE TABLE statement as a comment in the binary log. This is an annotation.
I guess this is to make streaming CDC easier, so that you can just stream changes without having a copy of the DDL downstream in an idempotent manner (updates that match no rows are inserts,etc?)
> * Counters for unsafe statements in replication (maybe in 10.2)
MySQL and MariaDB are notorious for marking statements unsafe that are actually safe. I'm not sure a counter would be of much use. I think SBR should be deprecated and ROW mode should be made the default. Any CDC related feature (like rewind) needs full RBR.
> * Extended table map in RBR is missing
Please explain. Is there an MDEV?
> * Galera 4, encryption of gcache
This is a pretty big bullet point in a small space. Adding support for Galera 4 while also making all the changes for InnoDB needs to be coordinated carefully.
> * Fix the XA transaction bug ( MySQL has fixed it already ) - MDEV-7974
Please actually complete XA support, don't just half fix it like Oracle did. Add full support for XA SUSPEND and XA RESUME and allow more than one thread to participate in a distributed transaction in the server. This will allow multiple transactions to share the same exact point-in-time so that multi-threaded applications can easily maintain consistent snapshots! This support could be exclusive to read-only transactions.
> * Indexes on expressions (this is part of virtual columns, will it not go into 10.2? Check with Serg)
Indexes on expressions requires parser support.
create index expr_idx on some_table(a + b);
select * from some_table where a+b > 30 and a+b <= 50 -- (uses range over expr_idx)
> * Flashback DDL MDEV-10571 (flashback DML will come in 10.2). It only works with row based replication. Talk about what to name it. There's already a MySQL time machine on github. Many like the name Rewind (but not Monty). Let's do a poll on the mailing list
Okay, Flashback query is VERY complicated. A flashback query is a materialized view. There are two ways generally to achieve flashback:
a) materialize the query as is, and instead of rolling the query forward incrementally, you roll it backwards. Flexviews achieves this by computing the query as it is now, then computing the delta from a prior point in time until the transaction in which that computation happened. Then the delta is played back against the query, but the MONUS of each operation is applied which changes insertions to deletions and vice versa. This still presents a problem for OUTER JOIN. No documented asynchronous refresh algorithms exist for outer join that I'm aware of, that would work with the concept of reading row history from serialized changes. Flexviews uses the "rolling join propagation" algorithm, which only works with inner joins.
b) provide a point-in-time snapshot of every table used in the query at the desired point in time, and run the query over those tables (this is a synchronous mechanism which supports OUTER JOIN). The problem here is how to provide such a table. The most straight-forward way is to copy the table, and then do the backwards replay for each (ideally in parallel) but this is obviously undesirable if the query is "select * from some_big_table join another_big_table on (...)" because you have to fully copy each table before you can undo changes. Otherwise you need to have the SE display old versions, just like it does for MVCC, but it has to display versions from binary logs, not undo logs, and this requires a lot of SE and engine changes!
Mysql-time-machine on github is just a MySQL -> HBASE replicator. It relies on HBASE for flashback. I don't think you plan to embed HBASE in MariaDB, so adding DML flashback is a VERY BIG job. I've been working on Flexviews for 8 years and I just recently added flashback support to it!
If you are going to have generic flashback, you might as well commit to incrementally refreshable materialized views.
> * Additional GIS functions to stay compatible. Also it would be good to have a standalone GIS library (Georg suggests; wlad isn't too happy with the suggestion). Georg suggests that calculations should use the reference systems (Unflatten the world - MariaDB Server GIS the world looks flat)
> * Query rewriting - MDEV-5561
I would like you to provide a SQL->DOM function call instead of just providing a DOM to plugins. This function could be exposed as a regular item function as well so that anything in the server can parse SQL. I suggest you implement my SQL "shim" interface and just provide some way to get a easy to iterate over parsed data structure from the SQL, such as a nested JSON array of objects. A nested array is generated by PHP-SQL-Parser and would provide a good template for such a JSON object.
> * With MyRocks coming, should we drop TokuDB (and maybe even deprecate in 10.2?) - bugs that MariaDB Corporation reports to Percona don't seem to get fixed. Peter says that bugs are fixed for customers... and there is ongoing development to make it better
It is certainly disheartening that Percona isn't responsive to MariaDB bugs, but I'm sure you understand that it is hard for a competitor to fix bugs for another competitor. MariaDB maintains a forked version of TokuDB. It isn't fair to expect the upstream vendor to fix bugs that your customers are paying you to support, does it? Perhaps you should pay a percentage of your support fees for TokuDB issues to Percona, or come to some other support agreement. Perhaps YOU should make the bug fixes and submit them to Percona. You could have just hired somebody to work on it at MariaDB like you plan to do so for MyRocks, but you didn't. Don't blame Percona for your failure to properly be a steward of an open source fork!
> * ORDER BY LIMIT optimizer bugs (MDEV-8306)
Oh god, this is a downward spiral every time somebody touches it. Fixing it correctly requires rewriting the parser, something that Oracle is undertaking.
What about other new MySQL 8 features? Are you getting rid of the .FRM nightmare? Are you going to support SET PERSIST? etc?
-- Greenlion