[Maria-developers] Debian packaging - option to enable feedback plugin
Hi! This is probably a great idea: https://answers.launchpad.net/maria/+question/248639 Let's ask dpkg to optionally enable feedback plugin? This could be good for us Just to be clear: I'm referring to this for the packages at mariadb.org I don't know if Debian upstream would like that -- Otto, any thoughts? cheers, -colin -- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
I've been thinking about this too, but I haven't formed an opinion yet on what is the best way to introduce this. I assume there are many debianists who don't like data collection, and server admins who simply don't want new dialogs to mess up their automated installation systems. If I introduce this as a low priority question, most who install will not be prompted. I need to think more around this.. 2014-05-15 13:37 GMT+03:00 Colin Charles <colin@mariadb.org>:
Hi!
This is probably a great idea: https://answers.launchpad.net/maria/+question/248639
Let's ask dpkg to optionally enable feedback plugin? This could be good for us
Just to be clear: I'm referring to this for the packages at mariadb.org
I don't know if Debian upstream would like that -- Otto, any thoughts?
cheers, -colin
-- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
-- Otto Kekäläinen +358 44 566 2204 Seravo Oy http://seravo.fi/
On 15 May 2014, at 18:42, Otto Kekäläinen <otto.kekalainen@seravo.fi> wrote:
I've been thinking about this too, but I haven't formed an opinion yet on what is the best way to introduce this. I assume there are many debianists who don't like data collection, and server admins who simply don't want new dialogs to mess up their automated installation systems. If I introduce this as a low priority question, most who install will not be prompted. I need to think more around this..
Can we just do it for the mariadb.org packages, just like we ask for a root password ? (I too am not sure if upstream debian/ubuntu will want to do that...) Anyhow, we really need to figure out better "tracking" so we know what features people are using so we can spend time on making them better: http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/ http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/stats/features/ (really useful stuff even when we are thinking of deprecating features)
2014-05-15 13:37 GMT+03:00 Colin Charles <colin@mariadb.org>:
Hi!
This is probably a great idea: https://answers.launchpad.net/maria/+question/248639
Let's ask dpkg to optionally enable feedback plugin? This could be good for us
Just to be clear: I'm referring to this for the packages at mariadb.org
I don't know if Debian upstream would like that -- Otto, any thoughts?
cheers, -colin
-- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
-- Otto Kekäläinen +358 44 566 2204
Seravo Oy http://seravo.fi/
-- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
You could at least add in the default my.cnf a section for the feedback plugin or create a specific config file on the /etc/mysql/conf.d/ directory. Having a dialog is not a real issue for automated install as running the package installation in non interactive mode would keep the default value (off) and as the dialog wouldnt be showed on upgrade, only on first installation and it still can be pre-configured using debconf-set-selections. On 15/05/2014 12:49, Colin Charles wrote:
On 15 May 2014, at 18:42, Otto Kekäläinen <otto.kekalainen@seravo.fi> wrote:
I've been thinking about this too, but I haven't formed an opinion yet on what is the best way to introduce this. I assume there are many debianists who don't like data collection, and server admins who simply don't want new dialogs to mess up their automated installation systems. If I introduce this as a low priority question, most who install will not be prompted. I need to think more around this..
Can we just do it for the mariadb.org packages, just like we ask for a root password ?
(I too am not sure if upstream debian/ubuntu will want to do that...)
Anyhow, we really need to figure out better "tracking" so we know what features people are using so we can spend time on making them better: http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/ http://mariadb.org/feedback_plugin/stats/features/ (really useful stuff even when we are thinking of deprecating features)
2014-05-15 13:37 GMT+03:00 Colin Charles <colin@mariadb.org>:
Hi!
This is probably a great idea: https://answers.launchpad.net/maria/+question/248639
Let's ask dpkg to optionally enable feedback plugin? This could be good for us
Just to be clear: I'm referring to this for the packages at mariadb.org
I don't know if Debian upstream would like that -- Otto, any thoughts?
cheers, -colin
-- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
-- Otto Kekäläinen +358 44 566 2204
Seravo Oy http://seravo.fi/
-- Colin Charles, Chief Evangelist, SkySQL - The MariaDB Company blog: http://bytebot.net/blog/| t: +6-012-204-3201 | Skype: colincharles
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Otto Kekäläinen <otto.kekalainen@seravo.fi> writes:
I've been thinking about this too, but I haven't formed an opinion yet on what is the best way to introduce this. I assume there are many debianists who don't like data collection, and server admins who simply don't want new dialogs to mess up their automated installation systems. If I introduce this as a low priority question, most who install will not be prompted. I need to think more around this..
For comparison, popcon does collect debian package install data, and at install time you're asked if you want to participate (depending on installation method). Another solution is to have feedback plugin as package that you just install and it gets enabled (by putting config in /etc/mariadb.d/ or something). -- Stewart Smith
2014-05-21 9:36 GMT+03:00 Stewart Smith <stewart@flamingspork.com>:
Otto Kekäläinen <otto.kekalainen@seravo.fi> writes:
I've been thinking about this too, but I haven't formed an opinion yet on what is the best way to introduce this. I assume there are many debianists who don't like data collection, and server admins who simply don't want new dialogs to mess up their automated installation systems. If I introduce this as a low priority question, most who install will not be prompted. I need to think more around this..
Just as a side note, Percona Xtrabackup is pending to be removed from Debian this month unless due to the privacy issues of the "call home" feature: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751377 In Debian the MariaDB feedback plugin needs to be strictly opt-in to avoid similar fate. I will look later at adding a opt-in question during the installation phase in Debian. -- Check out our blog at http://seravo.fi/blog and follow @ottokekalainen
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