With autocommit=1 every statement runs in its own transaction, so obviousluy .. yes!

MyISAM is/used to be completely  'transaction-agnosstic'.  But GTIDs seem to confict with non-transactional storage engines (as far as I can understand). MySQL/Oracle have "solved" (!) this by not allowing updates to tables using  transactional engines and non-transactional storage engines in same transaction.

However to me it is nonsense that transactions apply (have any effect at all) for non-transactional storage engines.  As a consequence I consider this solution (what must have been enforced in the server layer and not the storeage engine layer) by Oracle 'a dirty hack' (unless somewone can explain me why it it necessary).

-- Peter


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br> wrote:
With autoclmmit=1 works?

Em domingo, 11 de maio de 2014, Peter Laursen <peter_laursen@webyog.com> escreveu:

Thanks for the reply, but I am afraid I don't fully understand.

Here is a simple test case with mySQL 5.6.17:

1)
You need all those in configuration [mysqld) section

log-bin
log-slave-updates
gtid_mode = ON
enforce_gtid_consistency = ON


2)
Then this small script will reproduce: 


DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS `gtid_test`;
CREATE DATABASE `gtid_test`;
USE `gtid_test`;

CREATE TABLE `tab1` (
`a` INT DEFAULT NULL
) ENGINE=MYISAM ;

CREATE TABLE `tab2` (
`b` INT
) ENGINE=INNODB;

--start a transaction
SET autocommit=0;

INSERT INTO `tab1` VALUES (1);
INSERT INTO `tab2` VALUES (1);

-- now the first UPDATE to the MyISAM table in the transaction triggers this error:

UPDATE `tab1` SET `a` = 5 WHERE `a` = 1; 

-- and you'll get:
-- 
-- Error Code: 1785
-- When @@GLOBAL.ENFORCE_GTID_CONSISTENCY = 1, updates to non-transactional tables can only be done in either autocommitted statements or single-statement transactions, and never in the same statement as updates to transactional tables.


3)
ShouldI understand that MariaDB dos not prevent this (does not raise an error), but it is still unsafe as binlog - and thus replication - may be corrupted?


Thanks!

-- Peter

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Pavel Ivanov <pivanof@google.com> wrote:
There is no such limitation in MariaDB as well as no limitation on
CREATE TABLE ... SELECT.

Although beware that mixing statements changing MyISAM and InnoDB
tables in statement binlog mode you may get different results from the
statements on slaves.

Pavel

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Peter Laursen <peter_laursen@webyog.com> wrote:
> GTID implementation in MySQL 5.6 has the limitation as described here:
> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/replication-gtids-restrictions.html
>
>
> "nontransactional storage engines such as MyISAM cannot be made in the same
> statement or transaction as updates to tables using transactional storage
> engines such as InnoDB."
>
> If you try you will get the error:
> Error Code: 1785
> When @@GLOBAL.ENFORCE_GTID_CONSISTENCY = 1, updates to non-transactional
> tables can only be done in either autocommitted statements or
> single-statement transactions, and never in the same statement as updates to
> transactional tables.
>
> Is there same or similar/other limitations with GTID in MariaDB 10?
>
> -- Peter Laursen
> -- Webyog
>
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